Friday, March 18, 2011

What caliber for Byakhee?

Matt Caron points out that I've missed an obvious opportunity with my Lovecraft Action Shooting post: the obligatory choose-your-weapons post, a favorite firearms-enthusiast game in itself.

So remember your rules:

- One handgun of .32 caliber or larger, which was available in 1937 or is a close copy of same.

- One shotgun of 20 gauge or larger, of the same period.

- One additional period firearm of any type (excepting shotguns), with which you'll be putting at least 10,000 joules of energy into a shoggoth analog.

Me, I'll take a Colt 1903 and a Winchester Model 12 for the first two stages. They were dirt-common workhorse guns of the era, but still have loads of the elegance of prewar design to my eye.

The third stage, though... In real life, I'd most likely buy a Springfield and love it. In Imagination Land, though, it would have to be a handmade double rifle. I've always wanted a shoggoth gun to hang over the mantel.

So how about you? Leave your choices in the comments.


  1. What I've got: 1911, double barrel 12-ga., Mosin Nagant.

    What I'd like: 1911, Winnie 1897, Holland & Holland double rifle.

  2. The '97 is especially attractive to gun nerds because it crosses over into CAS and, now that I think of it, Steampunk shooting.

  3. I'll reiterate what I said in the other blog:

    1. Colt SAA or 1911 (Likely a Uberti Repro version of the first, and a Springfield Armory 1911A1)

    2. A Browning A5 would work well here.. but they were discontinued in 2000.

    3. BAR... but good luck finding one. ;-)

  4. Mixing a then-old school SAA with a then-newfangled Auto-5 makes for an interesting backstory.

    [I know the A-5 was around since 1898, but even Hemingway was still skeptical of it well into the Thirties.]

  5. 1911, Browning Auto5, BAR.
    Homage to JMB as well as HPL...

  6. custom 4-bore, a la John Ross

  7. Schofield or S&W top-break revolver. Failing that, maybe an artillery model SAA in .45LC or a Colt Police Positive in .38SPL, a 12-ga coach gun, and something "fundamental" (read: affordable), like an Enfield.

  8. My 1911A1 (in imagination land an original 1911), my wife's Sweet Sixteen Browning Auto-5 (in imagination land the finish would still be perfect and we could get 2.5" shells) and, uhm, a Ma-Duce. ;)

    My shooting group is trying to round up an old RV as I type this...

  9. Well, you could get a Semi-Auto BAR...though they cost four grand and lack the happy switch.

    1897 Trench Gun (Norinco Copy)
    US Rifle Cal. 30 M1 (Adopted in 1936,though mine is from 1945)

    My 1911 is a more modern version, so this might be an excuse to hunt down a Model 27. :)

  10. D.W.,
    JMB HPL FTW! Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah-nagl fhtagn!

    Polumetis, Ken, Awelowynt,
    "...custom 4-bore..." "Schofield or S&W top-break revolver. Failing that, maybe an artillery model SAA in .45LC..." "1897 Trench Gun"

    It's becoming clear that, as CAS has a forward-looking Wild Bunch variant, LAS needs a backward-looking "by gaslight" variant. The last stage in particular becomes mightily interesting if you mandate only manually repeating guns or, God forbid, muzzleloaders.

    My shooting group is trying to round up an old RV as I type this...

    Call me. ;)

  11. Heh. We're still working on it.

    Over the hill from our usual not-secret shooting location is a friend's plot of land with an old RV on it. But we haven't heard from him in a while and his last emails were a

  12. He's been compromised by the Mi-go! His brain's been removed and placed in a life-sustaining cylinder connected to an email client! The human agents of the fungi from Yuggoth have infiltrated every part of your community! AAAHHHHH!!

  13. Oh, the possibilities here!

    STAGE I - Browning model 1910 in .380 ACP

    STAGE II - Winchester model 1897 riot gun, naturally

    STAGE III - Winchester model 1895 in .405 Winchester

    When you think of it, there were plenty of guns available prior to 1937 that would be perfectly servicable for personal defense either from crooks OR more supernatural critters today. Also, while the Glock 19, Remington 870, or even an AKM are rugged and dependable firearms, there are few guns today that have the "cool points" of a Mauser C96, Luger, Webley Mk V, Winchester 1887, MP-18, Krag, or Remington model 8.

  14. I'm not sure precisely what I'd go with for Stage 1.

    I'm looking into maybe the Model 1901 10 ga lever for Stage 2.

    And I kinda like the idea of a Model 1894 for Stage 3, if I can't find anything cooler.

    Elmo: Whereabouts in the world are you?

  15. It's becoming clear that, as CAS has a forward-looking Wild Bunch variant, LAS needs a backward-looking "by gaslight" variant.

    Tom Horn could never forget what he saw in the cave in the hills. When the day finally came, he welcomed the noose.

  16. To copy & paste what I put in the original comments< Colt Police Positive for the first stage, a 12 gauge LeFever Nitro Special for the second, and a Mosin-Nagant 91/30 for the last. I'm not certain about the LeFever, but I know my other two guns were actually made prior to the cut-off date. (Ithaca made the Nitro Special from the 1920s to the early 1940s)

  17. The cutoff is late enough that you're truly spoiled for choice. This is why CAS specifies pre-1900 and single-action; the S&W Hand Ejector of 1899 is for all practical purposes equivalent to any .38 DA revolver you can buy today. By '37, handgun technology had basically plateaued, and todays guns have few material advantages in use; a 1937 cutoff basically denies you plastic frames. Hell, if you like DA semiautos, the Walther PP was available in 1929.

    I keep meaning to take my Browning 1955 (identical to the 1910 but for the American rollmarks) and set up an Archduke Ferdinand shoot. I just need some blown up targets demarcating the silk vest you need to shoot around.

    Stranded in New Jersey, I'm afraid. I've been building a raft out of coconut-fiber rope and the rot-swelled bodies of my fellow sailors, though, and hope to escape with the departing tide.

    Safe to assume you've seen Frontier Cthulhu?

  18. Holy god. Well, how about you come here and do this Cthulhu shoot, rather than the rest of us trying to get export documentation to take arms to the PRNJ? ;)

    (I'm in NM, with the Nerds, FWIW. Though about 100 miles away.)

  19. You know, it's funny. Jersey is actually a decent place to live if you only care about competitive shooting*. The population density is so high that even with the punitively restrictive laws, there are enough hardcore devotees within driving distance of you to make for thriving clubs of hobby shooters in any discipline you happen to be interested in.

    ...rather than the rest of us trying to get export documentation to take arms to the PRNJ? ;)

    You only think you're kidding. Our laws are written so restrictively as to arguably make it a felony to transport a gun to a competition from out of state. With a background check, fingerprints, character references, and a multi-month background check you could get the Firearms ID card necessary to bring in long arms, but strictly speaking there may be no legal way to bring in a handgun. Sebastian at Snowflakes in Hell complains occasionally about the Jersey meets he'd like to attend, but can't justify the legal risk. It's an ungodly mess.

    But hey, you guys pull together a Lovecraft shoot, and I'll try to swing a cross-country trip. I've always wanted to see the southwest. :)

    [* - If your interest in guns is based mostly on self defense... Well, that's a different story.]

  20. I didn't think I was kidding at all. My wife did her pharmacy residency at Robert Wood Johnson in Highland Park.

    As for a decent place to live... well, maybe. The population density most places on the East Coast makes me itch, frankly. I can stand NYC for about 3 days before I gotta go somewhere else. But hey, different stuff for different people. :)

  21. As for a decent place to live...

    From a competitive shooting perspective.

    The only reason I live here is because I was born here and relationship factors slow my plans to leave. If it wasn't for those relationships, I'd probably live in Montana by now.